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Bike Lights Data Base
There is so many lights that sometimes you are not able to know them all. 
So I'm starting to create Led Lights Data Base that are currently avalible on the market and I'm counting on You people that you will help updateing it  .
Single Led Bike lights (at last 80 lumens to get here)
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Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
Blackburn X3 150$ 100$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 85
Blackburn X4 199$ 109$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 4h bar/helmet 85 (Li-Ion version of X3)
BLT Triton T4 Headlight 200$ 180$ Luxeon - - 3 - 1,5h bar 120 4W rate
BLT Firewire 4.0 150$ 130$ Luxeon - - 3 - 3h ?? bar/helmet 120 4W rate
Busch & Müller IXON IQ 140$ 112$ Cree/Rebel 1 - 3 - 5h bar 100 (40 lux) 4xAA
Busch & Müller IXON IQ SPEED 240$ 185$ Cree/Rebel 1 - 3 - 10h bar/helmet 130 (50 lux) 6V 4,1Ah
Cygolite HiFlux 200 139$ 95$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 6h bar 80
Cygolite HiFlux II 99$ 66$ SSC - - 3 - 3,5h bar 150
Cygolite HiFlux II Xtra 109$ 80$ SSC 1 - 3 - 4,5h bar 150
DiNotte 200L-AA 169$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 2h bar/helmet 200
DiNotte 200L-Li 249$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 4/8h bar/helmet 200
Exposure Lights JoyStick MaXx 250$ 182$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 3 bar/helmet 240 ;)
Hope Vision Single LED 199$ 128$ SSC ? ? 3 ? 3h bar 240 ;) (4xAA)
Knog Gator 305 265$ 150$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 4,4h bar 80
Light & Motion Vega 199$ 119$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 2 bar/helmet 85
Light & Motion Vega 120 129$ 110$ SSC - - 3 - ? bar 120
Light & Motion Vega 200 189$ 173$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 2 bar 200
Light & Motion Stella 180NiMH 240$ 159$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe 5 bar/helmet 180
Light & Motion Stella 180Li-Ion 299$ 247$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe 5 bar/helmet 180
Light & Motion Stella 120 AA 96$ 89$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - ? bar/helmet 120
Light & Motion Stella 120 129$ 119$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 2 bar/helmet 120
Light & Motion Stella 200L 259$ 219$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 5 bar/helmet 200
Light & Motion Stella 200N 179$ 148$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 5 bar/helmet 200
LITEmania Scolo 53$ head only Cree Q5 1 - 3 - 7,2v/4Ah=7hbar 200 (add 50$ for batt & 25$ chrg.)
Marwi Stellar 211$ 146$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 80
NiteFLUX Photon 4 Enduro 265$ 183$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 6h bar/helmet 120
NiteHawk K2 219$ 122$ Luxeon K2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 4h bar/helmet 160
NiteHawk Emitter AL-X 120$ 99$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 85
Niterider MiNewt 180$ 119$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3h bar 80
Niterider MiNewt.X2 189$ 135$ SSC 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar 150
Niterider MiNewt.USB 109$ 83$ SSC - - 3 - 3h bar 110
Niterider MiNewt.USB Plus 129$ 109$ SSC - - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 110
Niterider Sol 149$ 119$ SSC - - 3 - 4h bar 115
Niterider SolMate 165$ 125$ SSC - - 3 - 4h bar/helmet 115
Princeton Tec Switchback 1 199$ 179$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 4,5h bar/helmet 85
Sigma Powerled + NiPack 150$ 120$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 5h bar/helmet 85
Sigma Powerled + SSC 110$ SSC (mod) 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 180
Sigma Powerled Black 159$ 75$ SSC 1 2 3 - 2h bar/helmet 170 (4xAA)
Sigma Powerled Black Lipack 180$ 140$ SSC 1 2 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 170
Solidlights 1103 420$ Luxeon 1 2 3 - 3,7h bar/helmet 85
SuperNova 24SEVEN 750$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 7h bar/helmet 120 4,3W rate
Topeak WhiteLite 3W + HP kit 166$ 140$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 85
Topeak Whitelite HP 5W 400$ 259$ Luxeon K2 1 2 3 - 5,2h bar/helmet 160 5W rate
* taken from datasheet
** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
Dual Led or Dual Head bike lights
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Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
AyUp! Roadie Kit 195$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 6h bar/helmet 260 Q3 500mA by resistor.
Blackburn X6 Dual 282$ 99$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 170
Blackburn X8 Dual 299$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 170
BR Lights C2 290$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,95h bar 300
Cateye Double Shot 230$ 169$ Luxeon - - 3 - 5,5h bar/helmet 160
Cateye Double Shot PRO 399$ 298$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 160
Cateye R2 480$ Rebel 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 400
Cygolite DualCross Li-ion 220$ 184$ Luxeon 1 - 3 sos 3,5h bar/helmet 160
Cygolite DualCross PRO NiMH 209$ 167$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 4h bar/helmet 310
Cygolite DualCross PRO Li-ion 250$ 214$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar/helmet 310
Cygolite Rover II 140$ 115$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar 255
Cygolite Rover II Xtra 160$ 144$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar 255
Cygolite MityCross 199$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar 350 ;)
DiNotte Dual-200 374$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 8h bar/helmet 400
DiNotte 400L 269$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 2/4h bar/helmet 200
Exposure Lights Race MaXx 350$ 262$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 480 ;)
Hope Vision Led 350$ 240$ Luxeon K2 - - 3 - 1,75h bar/helmet 300
Hope Vision 2 '09 310$ 270$ ? 1 2+ 3 - 2 bar 480 ;)
Knog Gator 605 385$ 350$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5 bar 160
NiteHawk Emitter Dual 195$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 1h bar/helmet 160
NiteHawk K2 Dual 249$ Luxeon K2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar/helmet 320
Niterider MiNewt Dual Head 180$ 160$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 1,5h bar 160
Niterider MiNewt.X2 Dual Head 230$ 179$ SSC 1 - 3 - 1,75h bar 300
Princeton Tec Switchback 2 242$ 159$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 5,5h bar/helmet 160
SuperNova 48SEVEN 900$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 7h bar/helmet 240 8,6W rate
* taken from datasheet
** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
Triple led light systems...
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Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
Cateye Triple Shot 330$ 199$ Luxeon - - 3 - 3,3h bar/helmet 255
Cateye Triple Shot PRO 450$ 350$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 255
Cateye R3 550$ Rebel 1 - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 550
Cygolite TridenX NiMh 299$ 274$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar/helmet 400 ??
Cygolite TridenX Li-ion 349$ 259$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 2,5h bar/helmet 500 ??
Cygolite TridenX Li-ion Extra 355$ 229$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 5h bar/helmet 500 ??
Cygolite Trion600 349$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar 600 ??
DiNotte 600-LI-4C 399$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3,5h bar/helmet 600
Exposure Lights Enduro MaXx 450$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 720 ;)
Nightlightning iBlaast! 170$ head only Cree Q5 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 720 (add 100$ for bat.)
Nightlightning iBlaast! II 238$ head only Cree R2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 810 (add 100$ for bat.)
Nightlightning Blaast! 175$ head only SSC - - 3 - 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 500 (add 100$ for bat.)
Niterider Trinewt (cable) 399$ 350$ SSC 1 - 3 strobe 3,3h bar/helmet 500
NiteFLUX Photon Max 519$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 2,6h bar/helmet 600
Princeton Tec Switchback 3 390$ 230$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 6h bar/helmet 255
Solidlights 1303 540$ Luxeon 1 2 3 - 1,25h bar/helmet 2555
*taken from datasheet
** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
Cygolite - ?? - not enough data about battery capacity / power rating
Nightlightning iBlaast - highly configurable you can set high from 700ma to 1000mA so maximal output rize to 600 lumens.
4 led & quad die bike lights...
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Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
AyUp! Regular Kit 380$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 520 Q3 500mA by resistor
AyUp! Endurance Kit 515$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 6h bar/helmet 520 Q3 500mA by resistor
DiNotte 800-LI-4C 439$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar/helmet 800
Exposure Lights MaXx-D 560$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 960 ;)
FoxFury Pro Bike System 224$ Luxeon 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 6h bar/helmet 144 4xC
FoxFury Pro 3 Bike System 369$ Cree XR-E 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 8h bar/helmet 500 6xCR123
Hope Vision 4 LED Li-Ion 500$ 440 SSC P4 1 - 3 - 2,5 bar 880
LITEmania Kentro ???$ SSC P7 1 - 3 - ? bar 500 ?
LightOn! Commuter 400 359$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,75 bar 400
LightOn! Commuter 500 405$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,75 bar 500 better bin ?
Lupine Wilma 4 675$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,75 bar/helmet 720
Lupine Wilma 6 695$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 4 bar/helmet 720
Lupine Tesla 520$ SSC P7 1 2+ 3 strobe+ ? bar/helmet 700
AyUp! - Regular kit have 1 big and 2 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 6 hour total.
AyUp! - Endurance kit have 2 big and 4 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 9 hours total.
FoxFury - Pro Bike System - You need 4C batteries to power it up (no cells or charger included).
FoxFury - Pro 3 Bike System - You need 3 or 6 CR123 batteries to power it up (6 batteries included, no charger).
For 6 Li-Ion RCR123A the burn time will be lower - about 6 hours.
Lupine Tesla - SSC P7 it is quad die led so i put it here.
More than 4 led bike lights...
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Company Product Price Best Led count Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
Light & Motion Seca 400 Cub 395$ 344$ 6 rebel 1 2 3 strobe 2,5 bar 400
Light & Motion Seca 700 Race 549$ 440$ 6 rebel 1 2 3 strobe 3,5 bar 700
Light & Motion Seca 700 Ultra 649$ 517$ 6 rebel 1 2 3 strobe 5,0 bar 700
Lupine Betty 7 995$ 908$ 7 SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 3,0 bar 1500
*taken from datasheet
** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
Some Incans & HID's .
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Company Product Price Best Power Burn time* Mount Lumens**
Sigma Mirage Evo Pro 99$ 57$ 5W 3h bar 81
Lupine Nightmare 485$ 25W 2,5h bar/helmet 490
Hope Vision HID 520$ 420$ 10W 2,5h bar/stem 193
Brightstar 10W HID ???$ 10W 3h bar 310
Lupine Edison 4 HID 599$ 16W 2,75h bar/helmet 522
* taken from datasheet
** lumens output from integrated sphere measures, data from traildesaster posts.
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09-30-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here. 
Would you consider expanding your DB to include rear LED lights?
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09-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Sweet info and thank-you.
Would love more info about the Trinewt by Niterider and the TridenX by Cygolite.
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09-30-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
What about the incans and the HIDs?
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10-01-2007, 06:24 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
I think that there is no longer any use for incan's in bike lightning, HIDs will extinct in 2 years... I'll probably add a few 5/10/20W incan’s & HIDs for cost / efficiency / burn time comparison but that's all.
If somebody thinks that is necessarily to add more this kind of lamps he can gather data and post here.
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10-02-2007, 01:31 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Although I'm not keen on spending hundreds of dollars on a bike light, I applaud your initiative. I'm sure it will be useful for many members here.
This could easily become a sticky.
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10-02-2007, 08:53 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
This is a good list. It also shows just how quickly the technology is changing. The SB series of lights received a good review in that review of lights earlier this year. Now, they look like an also rans in comparison to what is out currently.
Now for the nits to pick:
First, the price for the SB3 is kinda high. I've seen them for sale on ebay for $250, and someone purchased one from Colorado Cyclists(I think that's the name of the store) for $210 + shipping. Second, I think some of the high end single LED flashlights should be added to the list as well. An Fenix L2D running on turbo mode puts out 175lm(advertised), and with bike mount, batteries, and charger, could be had for under $100 for the package. Also, it might be nice to show whether they have a spot lens, a flood lens, or some combination.
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10-02-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Quote:
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Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here. |
Oooh. I love the smell of sticky in the morning.
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02-05-2008, 07:04 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Lupine Wilma now has 3 models the 4, 6 and 8 each giving 830 lumens
Runtimes are 2h 45, 4h and 5h 30 respectively. All 3 come with bar and helmet mount, car charger and padded transport case.
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04-15-2008, 03:49 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Lots of data in one thread, but this is what I was looking for!
Thanks a billion lumens!
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04-16-2008, 07:15 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Hey folks, I've just received my Ay-Ups a few days ago. Have not had a chance to test it out on the trails just yet, so no beamshots yet, but for now, here's a little writeup I've done for one of the local bike forums here in M'sia. This light rocks! Enjoy!!
http://fakawitribe.com/home/index.ph...=3604&catid=11
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09-30-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
The first anniversary of the " Bike Lights Data Base" 
And we have 105 light's in the base 
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10-01-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Great job Szemhazai. Happy B-day to your thread!
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10-03-2008, 01:22 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Tremendous job, Szemhazai!  I hope you keep it up! What a great resource.
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10-24-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ? 
Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens... 
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10-28-2008, 10:41 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
I know this website celebrates the very best in lighting. Indeed, it seems like everyone enjoys watching the amazing march of progress with at least a fantasy eye toward owning the newest, lightest and brightest...
But...
Not all of us (read: yours truly) have the technical knowledge, skills or $$$ to choose the best. This is my way of saying you may be singing the death song a little too early on incandescent lighting. It's so simple (even I can do it) and bright. I just looked at an $89 MR16 LED that just wasn't remotely as bright as my $6 halogen. I realize the efficiency of halogen doesn't come close to LED's but, over volted, it can exceed HID (at the cost of bulb life, yes, but how many cheap lights do I have to burn up to match the cost of an HID?)
Bottom line though is this; though it may be hard for you geniuses (no sarcasm intended) to imagine, I really don't understand about ballast, and circuit board etching and I don't have a lathe and every time I solder something I have about a 50/50 chance of melting it! So, assuming I'm not the only hapless techNOincompetent who nevertheless likes this stuff (and reads all your builds and designs like adventure stories) there's probably always going to be an interest in building "what we can". In my case a Maglite head with a halogen inside, an on/off switch (didn't think about rain) and a battery connector. To me that's high-tech.
Take care.
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10-30-2008, 05:46 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Aw, c'mon NoShoulder - you're in FOUNTAIN VALLEY! 
Surely you must have better skills than what you're letting on.
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11-10-2008, 06:04 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Where did you get the info about the Dinottes?
I've just started to do a little research myself (in the hope that I'd be able to do some modding), and found that the 600L has Fraen tri-lens suitable for Luxeon K2s, and indeed, the most advanced version of the K2 is rated 200 lumens (min. @1A), this also explains why there is no upgrade available for the Dinottes (SSC P4 are at around 240 lumens now).
Btw. the Cygolite Trion uses exactly the same optics and numbers (600 lumens) so that must be having the Luxeon K2 as well...
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Quote:
Originally Posted by Szemhazai
dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ?
Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens...
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I just saw your reply. I was still learning about this stuff when I posted that, and I still am.  I had multiplied 240 lumensx3x1.4 due to statements on their website.
Cree Q5 LEDs 240 Lumens each @ 1000ma (iBlaast!)
iBlaast II fitted with latest Cree R2 LEDs. 40% brighter than the iBlaast!
http://www.nightlightning.co.nz/endurenz%20details.htm
They do state in an email I received from them "The iBlaast II has three Cree R2 LEDs with an output close to 1000 Lumens."
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
What can I say... 
Q5 @ 1A => 240 lum
R2 @ 1A => 270 lum
So how "close to" 1000 is 810 ?? 
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11-23-2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
BR lights is shipping their 1000 lumen model C2-K in a couple days, and you can get your old model upgraded for $100!
I assume it is two Cree MC-E.
http://brlightsblog.blogspot.com/
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.
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01-27-2009, 05:38 AM
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Re: Bike Lights Data Base
Quote:
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anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.
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It's possible, but only if they are using over 1000mA driver.
Note that they also claim 150lumens@0.9W with 40hrs of runtime, which is impossible and real output in this mode is 90 lumens.
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